Open Pilot [CopterControl]

Letalne naprave z enim ali več rotorji na elektro pogon.

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Odgovor Napisal/-a nitrometan » 02 Okt 2011, 22:03

ko imam jaz gas na minimumu se mi to naredi, ko je pa vsaj malo več kot na nuli pa stvar deluje normalno. Ali je mogoče tako ?
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Odgovor Napisal/-a Nejc*_ » 03 Okt 2011, 14:26

Ni to, saj normalno letim po zraku nakar se kar naenkrat nič več ne odziva. Ko bom dobil nov motor bom iz enega regulatorja dal napajanje direktno na sprejemnik, morda bo bolje, saj sem moral tudi pri kalibraciji dati napajanje direktno na sprejemnik, drugače mi ni nič zaznalo.
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Odgovor Napisal/-a urosh » 05 Okt 2011, 12:48

Zdravo.

Me zanima, če imate kake informacije kje v eu bi se dalo naročiti ta board. Kaka je pa razlika napram v.5.5 KKmulticontroller? Tega se namreč da dobiti dokaj poceni in hitro... Ima kateri od teh dveh potem možnost nagdradnje z recimo gps (return to home, pa te fore) ali ne?

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Odgovor Napisal/-a nitrometan » 05 Okt 2011, 14:10

Kje v EU bi dobil CC plato res ne vem.

KK plošča so samo žiroskpi, ki skrbijo samo za osnovno stabilizacijo, Medtem ko ima sama CC ploščica tudi pospeškomere, torej se lahko nastavi da avtomatsko poravna letalo, omogoča tudi stabilizacijo kamere, telemetrijo in seveda tudi gps. Za telemetrijo (potreben nek RF Modem kot npr. XBee) in nastavitve se uporablja za to namenjen računalniški program, sama ploščica se pa poveže direktno na USB. Stvar je še močno v razvoju, return to home je samo v poizkusni fazi, pripravlja pa se tudi boljša ploščica z dodatnimi senzorji itd. samo kdaj bo to pripravljeno se pa ne ve.
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Odgovor Napisal/-a carcar » 19 Okt 2011, 15:01

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Krist » 30 Okt 2011, 19:29

Še ohišje za tiste mogoče mau bolj nerodne...
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Odgovor Napisal/-a Coil » 03 Nov 2011, 19:28

Ste se že kaj poglabljali v nastavitve CC... Sam sem si včeraj vzel nekaj časa in moram reči, da zdaj leti presentlivo dobro.

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Odgovor Napisal/-a carcar » 03 Nov 2011, 19:30

Coil napisal/-a:Ste se že kaj poglabljali v nastavitve CC... Sam sem si včeraj vzel nekaj časa in moram reči, da zdaj leti presentlivo dobro.
No povej oz. sharaj ugotovitve, jaz sem marsikaj stestiral in probal :) nazadnje ugotovil tudi, da morajo biti vrtlaji ko ga "un-armaš" ne prenizki, ker to kasneje povzroča tudi wooble...

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Coil » 03 Nov 2011, 22:19

Jaz mam nastavljeno takole za rate Ki okoli 2-3X toliko kot Kp. Malo povečan GyroTau, ter fino nastavljen Feed Forward.

Aja skoraj pozabil, dodal sem tudi malenkost GyroD komponente. :D

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Odgovor Napisal/-a capo » 03 Nov 2011, 23:05

Coil napisal/-a:Jaz mam nastavljeno takole za rate Ki okoli 2-3X toliko kot Kp. Malo povečan GyroTau, ter fino nastavljen Feed Forward.

Aja skoraj pozabil, dodal sem tudi malenkost GyroD komponente. :D
in kje se vse skupaj pozna? Pri akro vožnji?

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Odgovor Napisal/-a bovi » 03 Nov 2011, 23:15

capo napisal/-a:
Coil napisal/-a:Jaz mam nastavljeno takole za rate Ki okoli 2-3X toliko kot Kp. Malo povečan GyroTau, ter fino nastavljen Feed Forward.

Aja skoraj pozabil, dodal sem tudi malenkost GyroD komponente. :D
in kje se vse skupaj pozna? Pri akro vožnji?
Ne, pri penzijonerski vožnji :D

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Coil » 03 Nov 2011, 23:53

Za akro imam wii-ja, ki se suče tako, kot se CC nikoli ne bo :^o :D

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Krist » 13 Dec 2011, 11:06

Če komu viška hodi OP CC, ga odkupim.
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Odgovor Napisal/-a bizilux » 24 Dec 2011, 17:00

bli so zdejle spet na zalogi v EU store... in seveda jst sm ga že mev v shopping cartu, in je umes enkrat k sm probavu klikat purchase napisal da jih ni več

ker stran je bla tok preobremenjena da nisi mogu nč delat... ne vem kako bom js v lifu dubu tale control board, a so kkšne solidne alternative? paris?

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Krist » 24 Dec 2011, 17:26

Bahe je trajala zaloga 30s...
Jaz imam naročeno eno kitajsko, ki je v bistvu olepšan MWC.

Če bi se rad kdo igral s UAVP(UAVX), mi hodi viška.
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Odgovor Napisal/-a Krist » 02 Jan 2012, 14:28

Je že kdo nastavljal stabilizacijo kamere?
Sam sem za mali model usposobil stabilizacijo, ampak bi rad, da upravljam nagib kamere naprej/nazaj ročno. Se pravi, če dam, da kamera gleda navpično dol, da mi jo še vedno stabilizira. Za stabilizacijo bodo skrbeli hyperion programabilni servomotorji, ki imajo skupen hod 175°.
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Odgovor Napisal/-a Krist » 28 Jan 2012, 15:06

Z njihovega foruma:

CC3D is the successor to CC with upgraded sensors but will essentially have the same capabilities.

What is the Revolution?

It's a new breed of Autopilot using the STM32F4 Microcontroller, this is important as it contains a hardware floating point unit which is a huge advancement for hobby class autopilots, of course OpenPilot has been 32bit since day one, the FPU is another step up the performance ladder.

The Revolution is an Autopilot for Multirotors, Helicopters and Fixed wings, it is a full 10DoF, Mag, Gyro, Accel & Pressure. As the CC has manged to fly many types of aircraft and also ground vehicles the Revo will of course do this also, just better but at the end of the day we are targeting things that fly (CC has also been in a rocket or two as well, more on this when we have video).

Where's the Pro?

People still mention the Pro, the Revolution replaces it. Why did we do this? Because we knew about the new sensors and MCUs and we wanted to use them to give people the best possible hardware, I personally hate it when a company brings out something that they know is going to be replaced quickly and then it's dropped. This is why there was no Pro sold to end users, it flew very well, in fact exceptionally on Multis (including position hold 10 months ago) and Fixed Wing navigation however, when it was ready we knew it would not have the longevity we wanted so did not want to appear to play the planned obsolescence for profit game, we leave that to others.

Revolution Features

The size of the Revolution is just slightly bigger than the CC, it has 8 PWM outputs, 8 PWM inputs, it has the flexi port of course and a bunch of additional connectivity options, also Spektrum and S.Bus support like the CC. We also have been working with the author of PyMite to add Python scripting to the Revolution & Pro for quite a while, an idea that has already been borrowed by another Autopilot after we mentioned it on FLOSS Weekly a year ago.

Please, don't get too excited yet, we still have a lot of work to do and the idea with the Revolution is release it people when it can do navigation type tasks and very well. Like the CC, we want this to work well when it is released, releasing stuff that is half done just isn't fair to anyone and there are a lot of places you can already get that. The normal pattern we follow will happen: Developers first, Testers & Diamonds (yes that is what they are for) and then everyone else. This keeps it fair and the people with the most interest in OP, get the hardware faster.

OP Production Issues

I know it has been a frustrating few months, trust me I *really* know! There is good reason for it, with the CCs we have been having issues with gyro supply, we have been getting some gyros that are just out of spec or faulty. It is not our imagination or demand for perfection, all these gyros have been returned and they have been replaced by Invensense confirming that they are out of spec. So everyone thinking "why not make more" because its a huge risk to do so and a huge delay getting the gyros changed.

You know how this project is funded? Credit Card debt, each batch of CCs costs us over $20,000 to make, this is done on credit card debt as we have no money, if we have a bad batch of boards, we (well me) are in real serious trouble. I know everyone wants a board, I know its frustrating but please understand that side of it and what we are trying to do with OP. There is no mega corporation behind it, in fact no one with any money hardly at all (our lead firmware developer is on welfare) and it is a huge risk and stress to get these boards out. We are just a bunch of guys that got together and do something for passion and the love of it, there is a small donation on the boards only just too keep the lights on. This is why clones suck, we get barely enough money to keep going yet some people want to take that away.

Even if you don't have a CC and have another board, I think OP has changed things for the better in the hobby and why we want to stay around, thanks to CC a lot of projects and businesses have been forced to lower their prices, of course we also get a bunch of hate for operating as we do from them, I understand why, I don't care but I understand it The other projects benefit a great deal from OP, we do a massive amount of R&D which they use, we have features and ideas that they borrow and things like our GCS caused a lot of other projects to step up their game as well. Our code is now also appearing in other Autopilot projects and hopefully we can benefit from this by getting patches and fixes back from them.

Although we test and test the CC boards and of course with the gyro issues test a massive amount, some of those gyros that are out of spec have shown their problems after they have been sent. We can't have this, its beyond acceptable and not at all what we are about. I have personally had quite a few hobby things that arrived faulty and it sucks so much, excitement of a new toy turns in to disappointment and frustration. I never wanted to do that to anyone with OpenPilot but alas it has happened despite out best efforts.

This leads us to a finding a solution, we have a new board called the CC3D, prototypes of this have been made and do fly but it is still early days for the new sensors, the CC3D must at least match the performance of the CC of course and we need to do testing to ensure this happens. This involves, testing on a range of Multirotor sizes, Helis and fixed wing as well, but we have to make sure the CC3D is solid.
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Odgovor Napisal/-a carcar » 29 Jan 2012, 20:08

Krist skrajšaj pa povej povzetek v SLO :lol: :lol:
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Odgovor Napisal/-a bovi » 29 Jan 2012, 20:56

Povzetek je;

- OP CC ne bo več.
- Opravičujejo se za distribucijo, ker so imeli probleme z izdelavo...
- Prišel bo novi, še boljši, z več senzorji ( prej imenovan Pro, sedaj razvojno Revolution)...

Če bo, ko bo, nekoč :) ...

Ni mi pa jasno, kaj hočejo s CC3D. Morda vmesna verzija, ki bo prej na tržišču, namesto CC?

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Odgovor Napisal/-a nitrometan » 29 Jan 2012, 21:08

Vsaj kot jaz stvar zastopim je CC3D platka posodobljena CC -> drugačen gyro čip, saj so z dosedanjimi bili problemi, kar se tiče funkcionalnosti stvar ostaja enaka.

Revolution (bivši pro) je pa "ta resna" plata z vsemi senzorji, močnejšim procesorjem in več vhodno/izhodnimi zmožnostvi. Seveda tudi več funkcij, med njimi največja verjetno avtopilot. Komaj čakam =P~
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Odgovor Napisal/-a Krist » 29 Jan 2012, 21:37

Gre za novo platko. Dve verziji prototipa sta že v uporabi, vsaj kolikor sem spremljal temo na njihovem forumu.
V glavnem novi senzorji, dimenzijsko malenkost večja, autopilot in tako dalje...
Glede na to, da bodo platke "delili po v naprej določenem ključu, bo treba posnet kak trapast video, da se dobi tisti diamantek. S tem pa možnost nakupa plate pred ostalimi navadnimi smrtniki....
Več na The Revolution is coming

Jaz sem se končno navadil na svojo platko, tako da me nova niti ne zanima, sploh pa bo potrajalo, preden jo bo za dobit.
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Odgovor Napisal/-a carcar » 29 Jan 2012, 23:32

Aha, se mi je kar zdelo, da po tolikšnem času ko ni bilo nič z "pro", da so prešaltali na nekaj "novega". Meni CC deluje OK in če bo v prihodnje kak nov nakup bom dodobra premislil če bo ta verzija, glede na to koliko različnih boardov se že dobi danes.
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Odgovor Napisal/-a Krist » 13 Feb 2012, 18:56

Je kdo že probal novi CGS z novim FW? Verzija je OpenPilot-20120201-213a915f.ž
Sam sem jo danes nasnel na maca, pa sem razočaran. Že prej je delalo bolj počasi na OSX Lionu, nova verzija še slabša. Rabi 15s, da prepozna CC in se poveže z njo. Vse deluje z malce zamika.
Postopek kalibracije naprave je trajal tako dolgo, da me je že glava začela bolet od piskanja regulatorjev...
Edino, kar so dodali, so večje vrednosti Stick range and limits. Vrednosti gredo do 500°/s
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Re: Open Pilot [CopterControl]

Odgovor Napisal/-a bovi » 13 Feb 2012, 19:11

Do 500°/s je že prej šlo, ročno si vpisal...
Potem se vrti kot nor :).

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Krist » 13 Feb 2012, 19:13

Prej je bilo samo do 300. Ker sem imel smer vedno do konca.
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